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		<title>By: rygle</title>
		<link>http://www.firsttube.com/read/Thoughts-on-Windows-Home-Server/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>rygle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re being a bit judgemental on the comments on the other forum. There are several that say they like the idea. Some just say they could do it cheaper in other ways. What&#039;s the big deal?&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone tried to sell me a new car I would evaluate that on its merits too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re being a bit judgemental on the comments on the other forum. There are several that say they like the idea. Some just say they could do it cheaper in other ways. What&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>If someone tried to sell me a new car I would evaluate that on its merits too.</p>
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		<title>By: archiesteel</title>
		<link>http://www.firsttube.com/read/Thoughts-on-Windows-Home-Server/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>archiesteel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we agree on the basic point, i.e. that it&#039;s a cool device, and if it takes off we&#039;ll have more choice than simply WHS. In a sense, I *hope* it takes off, because that&#039;s often what it takes to create a new market. MS has enough money in the bank to take these kinds of calculated gambles, so it&#039;s no surprise that they&#039;re the first ones to provide such an integrated solution.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a side note, I&#039;d like to say that my relationship to MS is somehwat more complicated than some of my posts might suggest, as I&#039;ve actually been supportive of their entry in the video game market. Some of the console games I&#039;ve designed have had Xbox releases, and they&#039;ve always looked better/played better than the PS2/GameCube versions. I am wary of them, but I also don&#039;t want them to just disappear. I feel the same way about MS that I do about the U.S. in general: I&#039;d just like them to be smaller and less powerful, but I do value their contribution.&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, I think it&#039;s great that you put up links to the blogs on the maintenance page (i.e. when the main site is down). Not that I don&#039;t like dolphins, but... :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, I should get back to work. Those games don&#039;t make themselves (yet!)&lt;br /&gt;
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A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we agree on the basic point, i.e. that it&#8217;s a cool device, and if it takes off we&#8217;ll have more choice than simply WHS. In a sense, I *hope* it takes off, because that&#8217;s often what it takes to create a new market. MS has enough money in the bank to take these kinds of calculated gambles, so it&#8217;s no surprise that they&#8217;re the first ones to provide such an integrated solution.</p>
<p>As a side note, I&#8217;d like to say that my relationship to MS is somehwat more complicated than some of my posts might suggest, as I&#8217;ve actually been supportive of their entry in the video game market. Some of the console games I&#8217;ve designed have had Xbox releases, and they&#8217;ve always looked better/played better than the PS2/GameCube versions. I am wary of them, but I also don&#8217;t want them to just disappear. I feel the same way about MS that I do about the U.S. in general: I&#8217;d just like them to be smaller and less powerful, but I do value their contribution.</p>
<p>BTW, I think it&#8217;s great that you put up links to the blogs on the maintenance page (i.e. when the main site is down). Not that I don&#8217;t like dolphins, but&#8230; <img src='http://www.firsttube.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All right, I should get back to work. Those games don&#8217;t make themselves (yet!)</p>
<p>A.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite sure that if this device picks up speed, you can count the seconds on your fingers before there&#039;s an equivalent from NetGear, Linksys, and 5 other companies.  And if it fills a concrete role, maybe next year&#039;s Macworld keynote will introduce &quot;Apple Media Server&quot; or something.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with your general wariness of Microsoft, but I don&#039;t let that overshadow when they actually fill a void.  Since there&#039;s nothing on the market that does this in any fashion that is generally usable, I have to stand behind this until given a reason not to.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The &quot;whining&quot; was more the fact that very few comments addressed the value of the device, but many (not just yours) expressed a general distrust and dislike of Microsoft.  We get it.  We agree.  But no hard feelings.  I think I speak for all OSNews&#039;ers when I say that we value all participation, especially yours and the other most frequent posters.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for checking out the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite sure that if this device picks up speed, you can count the seconds on your fingers before there&#8217;s an equivalent from NetGear, Linksys, and 5 other companies.  And if it fills a concrete role, maybe next year&#8217;s Macworld keynote will introduce &#8220;Apple Media Server&#8221; or something.  </p>
<p>I agree with your general wariness of Microsoft, but I don&#8217;t let that overshadow when they actually fill a void.  Since there&#8217;s nothing on the market that does this in any fashion that is generally usable, I have to stand behind this until given a reason not to.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;whining&#8221; was more the fact that very few comments addressed the value of the device, but many (not just yours) expressed a general distrust and dislike of Microsoft.  We get it.  We agree.  But no hard feelings.  I think I speak for all OSNews&#8217;ers when I say that we value all participation, especially yours and the other most frequent posters.  </p>
<p>Thanks for checking out the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: archiesteel</title>
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		<dc:creator>archiesteel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam, nice blog.&lt;br /&gt;
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I felt that your comment on people whining concerned me somewhat...I did want to say that I - I can&#039;t speak for others - don&#039;t think WHS is a *bad* idea in itself. Heck, it clearly fills a need, since I myself have built on central file sharing repository, and am thinking of adding a backup system with rsync (as soon as I buy an extra HD ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
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However, while I do think this will fit a need, I am wary of MS encroaching itself further in the home market. I think it has enough of a stranglehold on the home market to be excited by such a prospect. You may say that these are purely political motives, and that these considerations are irrelevant to you, however I personally view these things in a pragmatic way: no competition means less innovation, and increased prices in the long run. It&#039;s not a matter of a company being good or bad, but simply that monopolies (and near-monopolies) are *dangerous* for an industry. I think this explains why so many posters are (justifiably or not) so hostile to Microsoft, and that&#039;s not something you can just casually brush off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That said, and this was my main argument in the messages (which may have been misconstrued as &quot;whining&quot;, though it really wasn&#039;t), I do not believe that MS can corner this market, simply because its competitive advantages here are slim. It&#039;s not so much that MS has had difficulties with hardware products before (the xbox and the MS mice being exceptions), but rather that *if* such a product takes off, it will be relatively easy for competitors to offer similar products, at a lower cost. I also noted that the MS and Windows brands, while easily recognized, cannot be expected to generate positive buzz about the product (again, if you look at the Xbox/Xbox360 marketing, Microsoft&#039;s name is never prominently displayed).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So all in all I think this is a good move by MS...but I hope that other companies follow suit and offer better/cheaper products, because I *definitely* don&#039;t want another MS product in every home. ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Peace out,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
archiesteel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam, nice blog.</p>
<p>I felt that your comment on people whining concerned me somewhat&#8230;I did want to say that I &#8211; I can&#8217;t speak for others &#8211; don&#8217;t think WHS is a *bad* idea in itself. Heck, it clearly fills a need, since I myself have built on central file sharing repository, and am thinking of adding a backup system with rsync (as soon as I buy an extra HD <img src='http://www.firsttube.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, while I do think this will fit a need, I am wary of MS encroaching itself further in the home market. I think it has enough of a stranglehold on the home market to be excited by such a prospect. You may say that these are purely political motives, and that these considerations are irrelevant to you, however I personally view these things in a pragmatic way: no competition means less innovation, and increased prices in the long run. It&#8217;s not a matter of a company being good or bad, but simply that monopolies (and near-monopolies) are *dangerous* for an industry. I think this explains why so many posters are (justifiably or not) so hostile to Microsoft, and that&#8217;s not something you can just casually brush off.</p>
<p>That said, and this was my main argument in the messages (which may have been misconstrued as &#8220;whining&#8221;, though it really wasn&#8217;t), I do not believe that MS can corner this market, simply because its competitive advantages here are slim. It&#8217;s not so much that MS has had difficulties with hardware products before (the xbox and the MS mice being exceptions), but rather that *if* such a product takes off, it will be relatively easy for competitors to offer similar products, at a lower cost. I also noted that the MS and Windows brands, while easily recognized, cannot be expected to generate positive buzz about the product (again, if you look at the Xbox/Xbox360 marketing, Microsoft&#8217;s name is never prominently displayed).</p>
<p>So all in all I think this is a good move by MS&#8230;but I hope that other companies follow suit and offer better/cheaper products, because I *definitely* don&#8217;t want another MS product in every home. <img src='http://www.firsttube.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace out,</p>
<p>archiesteel</p>
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		<title>By: REM2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>REM2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above, it&#039;s very tiring to see so much negative feedback, there are some really interesting products/software/hardware being released by many different vendors. There was a lot of postive thought in the 90&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above, it&#8217;s very tiring to see so much negative feedback, there are some really interesting products/software/hardware being released by many different vendors. There was a lot of postive thought in the 90&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: KLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>KLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often feel that way too. (regular OSNews reader for about 4 years now)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, maybe you should just quietly migrate your stuff to your blog/s and just not tell the &quot;masses&quot;, leaving them behind...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
/wishful thinking&lt;br /&gt;
/venting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often feel that way too. (regular OSNews reader for about 4 years now)</p>
<p>Hey, maybe you should just quietly migrate your stuff to your blog/s and just not tell the &#8220;masses&#8221;, leaving them behind&#8230;</p>
<p>/wishful thinking<br />
/venting</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  I wish it weren&#039;t the case, though.  So much of this stuff is so exciting, it just stinks to have so many people always complaining and being negative and fighting so much that I think it honestly holds back innovation across the entire industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I wish it weren&#8217;t the case, though.  So much of this stuff is so exciting, it just stinks to have so many people always complaining and being negative and fighting so much that I think it honestly holds back innovation across the entire industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Adam, this is exactly why i left the scene. It&#039;s just tiring see all these stupid people being anti-everything. It&#039;s just depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Adam, this is exactly why i left the scene. It&#8217;s just tiring see all these stupid people being anti-everything. It&#8217;s just depressing.</p>
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