Comments on: The Flop That is Windows Vista http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista/ crunchy nuggets, served semi-daily Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:41:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: sherry http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista/#comment-233 sherry Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:08:14 +0000 http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista#comment-233 I think Microsoft will have to go open source to save Vista and if they ever expect the government to use it. There is too much code in Vista to remain a closed OS. Sad situation I think Microsoft will have to go open source to save Vista and if they ever expect the government to use it. There is too much code in Vista to remain a closed OS. Sad situation

]]> By: Alex Forster http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista/#comment-602 Alex Forster Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:38:56 +0000 http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista#comment-602 Here's a little .txt I typed up after doing some research on Vista's versions.<br /> <br /> Every item on its own line comes on a separate CD. Versions that are grouped together all work with the same serial (eg. home basic 32 full and home basic 64 full can be installed with the same serial, but you can't install starter 32 with that serial).<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> starter 32<br /> <br /> home basic 32 full<br /> home basic 64 full<br /> <br /> home basic 32 upgrade<br /> home basic 64 upgrade<br /> <br /> home basic 32 oem<br /> <br /> home basic 64 oem<br /> <br /> home premium 32 full<br /> home premium 64 full<br /> <br /> home premium 32 upgrade<br /> home premium 64 upgrade<br /> <br /> home premium 32 oem<br /> <br /> home premium 64 oem<br /> <br /> business 32 full<br /> business 64 full<br /> <br /> business 32 upgrade<br /> business 64 upgrade<br /> <br /> business 32 oem<br /> <br /> business 64 oem<br /> <br /> enterprise 32<br /> enterprise 64<br /> <br /> ultimate 32/64 full<br /> <br /> ultimate 32/64 upgrade<br /> <br /> ultimate 32/64 oem<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> That means you would have to have 17 different serials and end up with 24 different DVDs to possess all "six" versions of Vista. Here’s a little .txt I typed up after doing some research on Vista’s versions.

Every item on its own line comes on a separate CD. Versions that are grouped together all work with the same serial (eg. home basic 32 full and home basic 64 full can be installed with the same serial, but you can’t install starter 32 with that serial).

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starter 32

home basic 32 full
home basic 64 full

home basic 32 upgrade
home basic 64 upgrade

home basic 32 oem

home basic 64 oem

home premium 32 full
home premium 64 full

home premium 32 upgrade
home premium 64 upgrade

home premium 32 oem

home premium 64 oem

business 32 full
business 64 full

business 32 upgrade
business 64 upgrade

business 32 oem

business 64 oem

enterprise 32
enterprise 64

ultimate 32/64 full

ultimate 32/64 upgrade

ultimate 32/64 oem

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That means you would have to have 17 different serials and end up with 24 different DVDs to possess all “six” versions of Vista.

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista/#comment-601 Adam S Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:26:28 +0000 http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista#comment-601 Seriously? People everywhere are posting their concerns about Leopard. But - in general - point taken. Leopard has it's own set of faults. I haven't experienced them, however, and most of the problems are more what I'd call "bugs." UAC is not a bug, it's a poor design decision, so I acknowledge a difference. <br /> <br /> Time Machine not backing up to Airport disks and Resolution Independence are features that were removed and are valid. But "breaking apps" is mostly silly. Most of the things that broke were because people hacked the system. <br /> <br /> Anyway, I hear ya. But it doesn't change the facts in this piece. Seriously? People everywhere are posting their concerns about Leopard. But - in general - point taken. Leopard has it’s own set of faults. I haven’t experienced them, however, and most of the problems are more what I’d call “bugs.” UAC is not a bug, it’s a poor design decision, so I acknowledge a difference.

Time Machine not backing up to Airport disks and Resolution Independence are features that were removed and are valid. But “breaking apps” is mostly silly. Most of the things that broke were because people hacked the system.

Anyway, I hear ya. But it doesn’t change the facts in this piece.

]]> By: Chris http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista/#comment-220 Chris Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:01:36 +0000 http://firsttube.com/read/The-Flop-That-is-Windows-Vista#comment-220 Adam, Something I consider when I read posts about Vista's failure, if, selling more than 100 million copies of anything can be considered a failure, is why don't people ever shine this critical light on Leopard? Vista shiped late, so did Leopard. I remember watching the Stevenote when Steve said "Leopard will ship before Vista" we were also told that we would get <a href="http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=368554">promised secret features</a> never showed.<br /> <br /> People also rag on Vista for breaking third party apps, but Leopard did the same, in fact some third party apps broke so badly that they prevented an upgraded 10.4 install from booting after the upgrade.<br /> <br /> Things like the TimeMachine backup to an Airport disk were in the betas (like WinFS) but then removed in the shipped version, and for a guy that has several Mac's in his house with 802.11n networking, I would have really liked that.<br /> <br /> What about Resolution Independence that did not ship?<br /> <br /> Why do we cut Apple so much slack, but a year later we still harp on Vista? And when you consider the scale of Microsoft's markget compared to Apple, the things Apple dropped are just, if not more so, impacting than what MS dropped from Vista.<br /> <br /> -Chris Adam, Something I consider when I read posts about Vista’s failure, if, selling more than 100 million copies of anything can be considered a failure, is why don’t people ever shine this critical light on Leopard? Vista shiped late, so did Leopard. I remember watching the Stevenote when Steve said “Leopard will ship before Vista” we were also told that we would get promised secret features never showed.

People also rag on Vista for breaking third party apps, but Leopard did the same, in fact some third party apps broke so badly that they prevented an upgraded 10.4 install from booting after the upgrade.

Things like the TimeMachine backup to an Airport disk were in the betas (like WinFS) but then removed in the shipped version, and for a guy that has several Mac’s in his house with 802.11n networking, I would have really liked that.

What about Resolution Independence that did not ship?

Why do we cut Apple so much slack, but a year later we still harp on Vista? And when you consider the scale of Microsoft’s markget compared to Apple, the things Apple dropped are just, if not more so, impacting than what MS dropped from Vista.

-Chris

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