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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While many who are invested in the current income tax system seek to &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipurl.com/taxpanelrebutted&quot;&gt;demagog the well-researched FairTax plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, FairTax&#039;s theoretical underpinnings have been &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipurl.com/taxnotes_galerebut&quot;&gt;professionally reviewed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, and its acceptance in the &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipurl.com/econsopenletter&quot;&gt;professional / academic community&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; continues to grow. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Renown economist Laurence Kotlikoff believes that failure to enact the FairTax - choosing instead to try to &quot;flatten&quot; what he deems to be a non-flattenable income tax system - will eventuate into an &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipurl.com/meltdowninprogress&quot;&gt;irrevocable economic meltdown,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; because of the hidden aspects of the current system that make political accountability impossible. Tom Frey, of the DiVinci Institute, foresees the &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipurl.com/incometaxcollapse&quot;&gt;coming collapse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of the income tax system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here is why the FairTax MUST replace the income tax. It&#039;s:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;â€¢ SIMPLE, easy to understand&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ EFFICIENT, inexpensive to comply with and doesn&#039;t cause less-than-optimal business decisions for tax minimization purposes&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ FAIR, loophole free and everyone pays their share&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ LOW TAX RATE, achieved by broad base with no exclusions&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ PREDICTABLE, doesn&#039;t change, so financial planning is possible&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ UNINTRUSIVE, doesn&#039;t intrude into our personal affairs or limit our liberty&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ VISIBLE, not hidden from the public in tax-inflated prices or otherwise&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ PRODUCTIVE, rewards, rather than penalizes, work and productivity&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Its benefits are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For &lt;b&gt;INDIVIDUALS&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;â€¢ No more tax on income - make as much as you wish&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ You receive your full paycheck - no more deductions&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ You pay the tax when you buy &quot;at retail&quot; - not &quot;used&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ No more double taxation (e.g. like on current Capital Gains)&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Reduction of &quot;pre-FairTaxed&quot; retail prices by 20%-30%&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Adding back 29.9% FairTax maintains current price levels&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ FairTax would constitute 23% portion of new prices&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Every household receives a monthly check, or &quot;pre-bate&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ &quot;Prebate&quot; is &quot;advance payback&quot; for taxes payable on monthly consumption to poverty level&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ FairTax&#039;s &quot;prebate&quot; ensures progressivity, poverty protection&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Finally, citizens are knowledgeable of what their tax IS&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Elimination of &quot;parasitic&quot; Income Tax industry&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ NO MORE IRS. NO MORE FILING OF TAX RETURNS by individuals&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Those possessing illicit forms of income will ALSO pay the FairTax&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Households have more disposable income to purchase goods&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Savings is bolstered with reduction of interest rates&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For &lt;b&gt;BUSINESSES&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;â€¢ Corporate income and payroll taxes revoked under FairTax&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Business compensated for collecting tax at &quot;cash register&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ No more tax-related lawyers, lobbyists on company payrolls&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ No more embedded (hidden) income/payroll taxes in prices&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Reduced costs. Competition - not tax policy - drives prices&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Off-shore &quot;tax haven&quot; headquarters can now return to U.S&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ No more &quot;favors&quot; from politicians at expense of taxpayers&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Resources go to R&amp;D and study of competition - not taxes&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Marketplace distortions eliminated for fair competition&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ US exports increase their share of foreign markets&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the &lt;b&gt;COUNTRY&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;â€¢ 7% - 13% economic growth projected in the first year of the FairTax&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Jobs return to the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Foreign corporations &quot;set up shop&quot; in the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Tax system trends are corrected to &quot;enlarge the pie&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Larger economic &quot;pie,&quot; means thinner tax rate &quot;slices&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ Initial 23% portion of price is pressured downward as &quot;pie&quot; increases&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ No more &quot;closed door&quot; tax deals by politicians and business&lt;br /&gt;
â€¢ FairTax sets new global standard. Other countries will follow&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s well past time to &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://snipr.com/scrapthecode&quot;&gt;scrap the tax code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and pay for government the way that America&#039;s working men and women are paid - when something is sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While many who are invested in the current income tax system seek to <b><a href="http://snipurl.com/taxpanelrebutted">demagog the well-researched FairTax plan</a></b>, FairTax&#8217;s theoretical underpinnings have been <b><a href="http://snipurl.com/taxnotes_galerebut">professionally reviewed</a></b>, and its acceptance in the <b><a href="http://snipurl.com/econsopenletter">professional / academic community</a></b> continues to grow. </p>
<p>Renown economist Laurence Kotlikoff believes that failure to enact the FairTax &#8211; choosing instead to try to &#8220;flatten&#8221; what he deems to be a non-flattenable income tax system &#8211; will eventuate into an <b><a href="http://snipurl.com/meltdowninprogress">irrevocable economic meltdown,</a></b> because of the hidden aspects of the current system that make political accountability impossible. Tom Frey, of the DiVinci Institute, foresees the <b><a href="http://snipurl.com/incometaxcollapse">coming collapse</a></b> of the income tax system.</p>
<p>Here is why the FairTax MUST replace the income tax. It&#8217;s:</p>
<p><i>â€¢ SIMPLE, easy to understand<br />
â€¢ EFFICIENT, inexpensive to comply with and doesn&#8217;t cause less-than-optimal business decisions for tax minimization purposes<br />
â€¢ FAIR, loophole free and everyone pays their share<br />
â€¢ LOW TAX RATE, achieved by broad base with no exclusions<br />
â€¢ PREDICTABLE, doesn&#8217;t change, so financial planning is possible<br />
â€¢ UNINTRUSIVE, doesn&#8217;t intrude into our personal affairs or limit our liberty<br />
â€¢ VISIBLE, not hidden from the public in tax-inflated prices or otherwise<br />
â€¢ PRODUCTIVE, rewards, rather than penalizes, work and productivity</i></p>
<p>Its benefits are as follows:</p>
<p>For <b>INDIVIDUALS</b>:<br />
<i>â€¢ No more tax on income &#8211; make as much as you wish<br />
â€¢ You receive your full paycheck &#8211; no more deductions<br />
â€¢ You pay the tax when you buy &#8220;at retail&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;used&#8221;<br />
â€¢ No more double taxation (e.g. like on current Capital Gains)<br />
â€¢ Reduction of &#8220;pre-FairTaxed&#8221; retail prices by 20%-30%<br />
â€¢ Adding back 29.9% FairTax maintains current price levels<br />
â€¢ FairTax would constitute 23% portion of new prices<br />
â€¢ Every household receives a monthly check, or &#8220;pre-bate&#8221;<br />
â€¢ &#8220;Prebate&#8221; is &#8220;advance payback&#8221; for taxes payable on monthly consumption to poverty level<br />
â€¢ FairTax&#8217;s &#8220;prebate&#8221; ensures progressivity, poverty protection<br />
â€¢ Finally, citizens are knowledgeable of what their tax IS<br />
â€¢ Elimination of &#8220;parasitic&#8221; Income Tax industry<br />
â€¢ NO MORE IRS. NO MORE FILING OF TAX RETURNS by individuals<br />
â€¢ Those possessing illicit forms of income will ALSO pay the FairTax<br />
â€¢ Households have more disposable income to purchase goods<br />
â€¢ Savings is bolstered with reduction of interest rates</i></p>
<p>For <b>BUSINESSES</b>:<br />
<i>â€¢ Corporate income and payroll taxes revoked under FairTax<br />
â€¢ Business compensated for collecting tax at &#8220;cash register&#8221;<br />
â€¢ No more tax-related lawyers, lobbyists on company payrolls<br />
â€¢ No more embedded (hidden) income/payroll taxes in prices<br />
â€¢ Reduced costs. Competition &#8211; not tax policy &#8211; drives prices<br />
â€¢ Off-shore &#8220;tax haven&#8221; headquarters can now return to U.S<br />
â€¢ No more &#8220;favors&#8221; from politicians at expense of taxpayers<br />
â€¢ Resources go to R&#038;D and study of competition &#8211; not taxes<br />
â€¢ Marketplace distortions eliminated for fair competition<br />
â€¢ US exports increase their share of foreign markets</i></p>
<p>For the <b>COUNTRY</b>:<br />
<i>â€¢ 7% &#8211; 13% economic growth projected in the first year of the FairTax<br />
â€¢ Jobs return to the U.S.<br />
â€¢ Foreign corporations &#8220;set up shop&#8221; in the U.S.<br />
â€¢ Tax system trends are corrected to &#8220;enlarge the pie&#8221;<br />
â€¢ Larger economic &#8220;pie,&#8221; means thinner tax rate &#8220;slices&#8221;<br />
â€¢ Initial 23% portion of price is pressured downward as &#8220;pie&#8221; increases<br />
â€¢ No more &#8220;closed door&#8221; tax deals by politicians and business<br />
â€¢ FairTax sets new global standard. Other countries will follow</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s well past time to <b><a href="http://snipr.com/scrapthecode">scrap the tax code</a></b> and pay for government the way that America&#8217;s working men and women are paid &#8211; when something is sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Campanelli</title>
		<link>http://www.firsttube.com/read/Misc-Mike-Gravel-Bits/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Campanelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravel is good but take a look at Ron Paul.  Another candidate with no chance but has my support.  Like you Adam, I must be a liberal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CAMP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravel is good but take a look at Ron Paul.  Another candidate with no chance but has my support.  Like you Adam, I must be a liberal.</p>
<p>CAMP</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Forster</title>
		<link>http://www.firsttube.com/read/Misc-Mike-Gravel-Bits/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Forster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading that made me decide that I&#039;m going to wait off on supporting a candidate. The primaries are going to go to either Hillary or Obama regardless of who we support, so no use even following it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading that made me decide that I&#8217;m going to wait off on supporting a candidate. The primaries are going to go to either Hillary or Obama regardless of who we support, so no use even following it.</p>
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