Adam, Something I consider when I read posts about Vista's failure, if, selling more than 100 million copies of anything can be considered a failure, is why don't people ever shine this critical light on Leopard? Vista shiped late, so did Leopard. I remember watching the Stevenote when Steve said "Leopard will ship before Vista" we were also told that we would get [[http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=368554|promised secret features]] never showed. People also rag on Vista for breaking third party apps, but Leopard did the same, in fact some third party apps broke so badly that they prevented an upgraded 10.4 install from booting after the upgrade. Things like the TimeMachine backup to an Airport disk were in the betas (like WinFS) but then removed in the shipped version, and for a guy that has several Mac's in his house with 802.11n networking, I would have really liked that. What about Resolution Independence that did not ship? Why do we cut Apple so much slack, but a year later we still harp on Vista? And when you consider the scale of Microsoft's markget compared to Apple, the things Apple dropped are just, if not more so, impacting than what MS dropped from Vista. -Chris